ืืืง ืจืืืขื ืฉื ืจืืืื ืืืจื ืงืืืฆืช "ืืืืืืก - ืืงืืืฆื ืืืฉืจืืืืช" ืืคืืืกืืืง ืขื ืืื ืืืจื, ืืืจ ืืืืืช ืฉื ืืืืืืก ืฉืชืจื ืจืืืช ืืคืจืกืืื.
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Q: Can You Clarify Whether the Story About Cunard Yanks Bringing Rock โnโ Roll Records from Overseas to Liverpool is a Legend or was it True?
A: More a piece of exaggerated fiction, although there was a tenuous relationship. Cunard Yanks had no impact on the local music scene. They brought clothes, records, books and magazines and various things back from America, mainly New York, but the records could be Billy Eckstein or Frank Sinatra as much as rock โnโ roll records. Every one of the early Beatles rock repertoire based on records were ones released and available in the UK. British divisions of EMI and others issued such records and the groups used to go into stores such as NEMS and listen to the records in the booths, writing down the lyrics (often getting them mixed up, as John did). Even small labels such as Oriole were releasing the Tamla Motown singles and the biggest market was Liverpool. I promoted Motown in Mersey Beat and took Stevie Wonderโs โFingertipsโ to the Cavern to get Bob Wooler to play it. Ringo heard it and asked me for the record. I gave it to him, contacted Oriole and they sent Ringo their entire Motown catalogue. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - -
ืฉ. ืืชื ืืืื ืืืืืืจ ืืื ืืกืืคืืจ ืขื ื- Cunard Yanks (ืืืืื ื ืืืื ืื ืฉื ืืชื ืืื ืฉืื ืฉืขืืื ืืกืคืื ืืช ืืกืืืจ ืฉืืืืจื ืืื ืืืืจืคืื ืื ืื ืืืจืง ืืฉื ืืช ื-50 ืฉื ืืืื ืืงืืืืช. ื.ืค.) ืืืืืื ืชืงืืืื ืจืืง'ื 'ืจืื ืืื"ื ืืืืืจืคืื ืืื ืืืื ืื ืืื ื ืืื?
ืช. ืื ืคืืงืฆืื ืืืืืืช, ืืืื ืืื ืืืืจืื ืงืฉืจ ืงืืืฉ. ื- Cunard Yanksืื ืืืืชื ืืฉืคืขื ืขื ืกืฆืื ืช ืืืืืืงื ืืืงืืืืช. ืื ืืืืื ืืืืื, ืชืงืืืืื ืกืคืจืื, ืืืืื ืื ืืื ืื ื ืืืจืื ืืฉืืืจื ืืืืจืืงื, ืืขืืงืจ ืื ืื ืืืจืง, ืืื ืืชืืืืื ืืืื ืืืืืช ืฉื Billy Eckstein(ืืืืื ื ืืืืจ ื'ืื, ืคืืค ืืกืืืื ื ืืืจืืงืื ืืืืฆืข ืืืื ืืงืืืืช. ื.ืค.) ืื ืฉื Frank Sinatra, ืืื ืฉืืืื ืืืืืช ืชืงืืืื ืจืืง'ื 'ืจืื. ืื ืฉืืจ ืจืืง ืืจืคืจืืืืจ ืืืืงืื ืฉื ืืืืืืก ื ืืื ืืชืงืืื ืฉืืฆืื ืืืื ืืืื ืื ืืืจืืื ืื. ืืืจืืช ืชืงืืืืื ืืื EMI ืืืืจืืช ืืืฆืืื ืชืงืืืืื ืืืื ืืืืืงืืช ื ืืื ืืืงืจ ืืื ืืืืช ืืชืงืืืืื ืืื NEMS (ืืืืื ื ืืื ืืช ืืชืงืืืืื ืืืขืืืช ืืจืืื ืืคืฉืืืื. ื.ืค.) ืืืงืฉืืื ืืชืงืืืืื ืืชืืื, ืืชืื ืืช ืืืืืช ืืฉืืจืื (ืืืขืืชืื ืขืจืืื ืืืชื, ืืคื ืฉืขืฉื ื'ืื). ืืคืืื ืืืจืืช ืชืงืืืืื ืงืื ืืช ืืื Oriole ืืืฆืืื ืกืื ืืืื ืฉื Tamla Motown (ืืืืื ื ืืืืจืช ืชืงืืืืื ืืืจืืงืืืช ืฉืืชืืืชื ืืืืืืงื ืฉืืืจื. ื.ืค.) ืืืฉืืง ืืื ืืืื ืืื ืืืืืจืคืื. ืื ื ืงืืืืชื ืชืงืืืื Motown ื- Mersey Beat ืืืงืืชื ืืช ืืชืงืืื ืฉื ืกืืืื ืืื ืืจ, Fingertips, ืืืืขืืื The Cavern ืืื ืฉื-D.J., Bob Wooler, ืืฉืืืข ืืืชื. ืจืื ืื ืฉืืข ืืช ืื ืืืืงืฉ ืืช ืืชืงืืื ืืื ื. ื ืชืชื ืื ืืืชื, ืืฆืจืชื ืงืจ ืขื Oriole ืืื ืฉืืื ืืจืื ืื ืืช ืื ืืงืืืื ืฉื Motown.
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Q: Can You Tell Us About the relationship of John and Paul? Did they ignore George and Ringo? I mean Musically, and as Friends?
A: This must have been in my mind subconsciously when I kept approaching George whenever we met for drinks in clubs and kept saying that all the songs were written by John and Paul, why werenโt the Beatles recording any of his songs. He told me he wasnโt confident of writing lyrics. I pointed out that the very first mention in print of a Beatle writing an original song was on the cover of Issue No. 2 of Mersey Beat when I wrote that an original Beatles number โCry for A Shadowโ was written by George. An alternative title had been โBeatle Bop.โ Apparently, the Beatles asked Bert Kaempfert when they were doing their recordings with Tony Sheridan whether they could record one of their own numbers. Kaempfert listened and chose Georgeโs number. This was an instrumental and I was told it was because Rory Storm had challenged George to write a number like the Shadows. Hence the title, I presume. Later I was told it had been credited to George and John, although I believe it was mainly George. It is interesting to note that the very first original number by the Beatles had been recorded at Philips Studio in Kensington, Liverpool when they were still the Quarrymen. It was โIn Spite of All the Dangerโ and was credited to George and Paul. I kept stressing to George at our meetings that he was the composer on the first original Beatles number. I even suggested that he should write a number with Ringo. At another meeting he said that he did take my advice and write a number with Ringo, which I then mentioned in Mersey Beat. Donโt know what happened to the song, though. Then, when I was with them at the ABC, Blackpool, George thanked me. I asked him why and he said that he was going out one night and reckoned that heโd bump into me and Iโd be bothering him once again about songwriting. So the title โDonโt Bother Meโ came into his head and he wrote the song and recorded it and told me in Blackpool that heโd already received a cheque for more than ยฃ7,000 for it.
Initially John didnโt want George in the group. He thought he was too young and treated him like a kid. I think it took away a lot of his confidence and the rejection always remained with him. He even asked John to help him with some advice about a song, but John refused. Thatโs why George had so many original songs on his โAll Things Must Passโ triple album. Heโd had to fight hard to get any songwriting credit with the Beatles. Eventually it was Allan Klein who gave him his first and only Beatles โAโ side on a single, โSomethingโ, which Frank Sinatra said was the best love song of the twentieth century โ unfortunately, Sinatra also credited the number to John and Paul and not George. At his September 1981 Carnegie Hall concert, the highlight of his show was said to be โSomethingโ and the newspaper review read, โSinatra introduced the song, written and recorded by the Beatles, by saying, โIn a sense this is a personal tribute to Mr. Lennon. Also Mr. McCartney.โ Ironically, John and Paul had once said that they would known when they had โarrivedโ as songwriters, when Frank Sinatra recorded a Beatles song.โ
Georgeโs songs on โAbbey Roadโ proved that he was an exceptional songwriter who had been kept down during the Beatles recording career. Ringo, of course, was the newcomer โ and felt it in the early stage. His confidence returned when it became obvious that he was the most popular Beatle during their early American trips, with more tribute discs written about him than the other members put together. The American press also appreciated his wit in interviews.
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ืฉ: ืืื ืืชื ืืืื ืืกืคืจ ืื ื ืขื ืืขืจืืช ืืืืกืื ืืื ื'ืื ืืคืื? ืืื ืื ืืชืขืืื ืื'ืืจื' ืืจืื ืื? ืื ืืืืืื ื ืืืืืืงืืืช, ืืื ืื ืืืืืื ื ืืืืจืชืืช?
ืช: ืืืืฉืื ืืืืช ืื ืจืื ืืืืชื ืืชืช-ืืืืข ืืืืข ืฉืื ืื ืืื ืฉืืืืชื ื ืืืฉ ืื'ืืจื' ืืฉืืืื ื ื ืคืืฉืื ืืฉืชืืช ืืืืขืืื ืื, ืืืืฉืืชื ืืืืื ืฉืื ืืฉืืจืื ื ืืชืื ืขื ืืื ื'ืื ืืคืื, ืืืื ืืืืืืก ืื ืืงืืืืื ืืฃ ืืื ืืืฉืืจืื ืฉืื. ืืื (ื'ืืจื') ืืืจ ืื ืฉืืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ืืืชืืืช ืืืืื ืืฉืืจืื. ืืืืจืชื ืืช ืื ืฉืืคืขื ืืจืืฉืื ื ืฉืฉืืจ ืืงืืจื ืฉื ืืชื ืขื ืืื ืืื ืืืืืืืก ืืืืชื ืืืจืืื ืฉื ืืืืืื ืืก' 2 ืฉื 'ืืจืกื ืืื', ืืฉืืชืืชื ืฉืืฉืืจ ืืืงืืจื ืฉื ืืืืืืก 'Cry For A Shadow' ื ืืชื ืขื ืืื ื'ืืจื'. ืืืชืจืช ืืืืคืืช ืืืืชื 'Beatle Bop'. ืืื ืื ืจืื, ืืืืืืก ืืืงืฉื ืืืจื ืงืืคืคืจื (ืืืืื ื ื Bert Kaempfert, ืืื ืืคืืง ืืจืื ื, ืืื ืฉืืืืื ืืช ืืืืืืก ืืืืืช ืืืืงื ืืืืื ืฉื ืืื ื ืฉืจืืื ืืืงืืืืช. ื.ื.) ืืืื ืืืงืืืืช ืขื ืืื ื ืฉืจืืื, ืื ืื ืืืืื ืืืงืืื ืืช ืืื ืืืฉืืจืื ืฉืืื. ืงืืคืคืจื ืืงืฉืื ืืฉืืจืื, ืืืืจ ืืฉืืจ ืฉื ื'ืืจื'. ืื ืืื ืฉืืจ ืืื ืกืืจืืื ืืื ืืื ืื ืจืื ืื ืจืืจื ืกืืืจื (ืืืืื ื ืืืืจ ืฉื ืืืืืืก ืืื ืืื ืืืืงื ืืจืืฉืื ื ืฉื ืจืื ืื, ืจืืจื ืกืืืจื ืืืืืจืืงื ื. ืฆ.ืค.) ืืชืืจ ืืช ื'ืืจื' ืืืชืื ืฉืืจ ืืกืื ืื ืฉื ืืืงืช The Shadows. ืื ื ืื ืื ืฉืืืื ืื ืืืืชืจืช. ืืืืืจ ืืืชืจ, ื ืืืจ ืื ืฉืืงืจืืื ื ืืชื ืื'ืืจื' ืื'ืื, ืืืจืืช ืฉืื ื ืืืืื ืฉืื ืืื ืืขืืงืจ ื'ืืจื' ืฉืืชื ืืืชื. ืืขื ืืื ืืฆืืื ืื ืฉืืฉืืจ ืืืงืืจื ืืจืืฉืื ืฉืืืงืื ืขื ืืื ืืืืืืก ืืืืืคื ื Philips ืืงื ืืื ืืืื, ืืืืจืคืื, ืืืื ืฉืขืื ืืื ืืงืืืจืืื, ืืื In Spite Of All The Danger, ืฉืื ืืงืจืืื ืืื ืื'ืืจื' ืืคืื. ืื ืคืขื ื ืืกืืชื ืืืจืืืช ืื'ืืจื' ืืคืืืฉืืช ืฉืื ื ืฉืืื ืืื ืืืืชื ืืฉืืจ ืืืงืืจื ืืจืืฉืื ืฉื ืืืืืืก. ืืคืืื ืืฆืขืชื ืื ืฉืืื ืืืชืื ืฉืืจ ืขื ืจืื ืื. ืืคืืืฉื ืืืจืช, ืืื ืืืจ ืื ืฉืืื ืืงื ืืช ืืขืฆื ืฉืื ืืืชื ืขื ืจืื ืื, ืืืจ ืฉืืืจ ืื ืืืืจืชื ืืืจืกื ืืื. ืืื, ืื ื ืื ืืืืข ืื ืงืจื ืขื ืืฉืืจ. ืืืจ ืื, ืืฉืืืืชื ืืืชื ื- ABC ืืืืืงืคืื, ื'ืืจื' ืืืื ืื. ืฉืืืชื ืืืชื ืืื ืืืื ืืืจ ืฉืืื ืืฆื ืขืจื ืืื ืืชืืืจ ืืขืฆืื ืฉืืื ืืชืงื ืื, ืืฉืื ื ืืฆืืง ืื ืขืื ืคืขื ืขื ืืชืืืช ืฉืืจืื. ืืืืชื ืจืืข, ืืืืชืจืช ืฉื 'Donโt Bother Me' (ืฉืืื ืืฉืืจ ืืจืืฉืื ืฉื ื'ืืจื' ืืืืืืื ืืืืืคื ืืจืฉืืืื ืฉื ืืืืืืก, ื.ื.) ืขืืชื ืืจืืฉื, ืืืื ืืชื ืืช ืืฉืืจ ืืืงืืื ืืืชื. ืืื ืกืืคืจ ืื ืืืืืงืคืื ืฉืืื ืืืจ ืงืืื ืฆ'ืง ืฉื ืืืชืจ ื-7,000ยฃ ืขื ืืฉืืจ.
ืืืชืืื, ื'ืื ืื ืจืฆื ืืช ื'ืืจื' ืืงืืืฆื. ืืื ืืฉื ืฉืืื ืฆืขืืจ ืืืื ืืืชืืืืก ืืืื ืืื ืืืื. ืื ื ืืืฉื ืฉืื ืคืืข ืืืื ืืืืืืื ืืขืฆืื ืฉืื, ืืืืืืื ืชืืื ื ืฉืืจื ืืืชื. ืืื ืื ืืืงืฉ ืื'ืื ืฉืืขืืืจ ืื ืืืืขืฅ ืื ืืืื ืฉืืจ ืืืฉืื, ืืื ื'ืื ืกืืจื. ืื ืืื ืืื ืื'ืืจื' ืื ืื ืืจืื ืฉืืจืื ืืงืืจืืื ืืืืืื ืืืฉืืืฉ ืฉืื โAll Things Must Passโ (ืฉืืื ืืืืื ืืกืืื ืืจืืฉืื ืฉื ื'ืืจื' ืืืจื ืคืืจืืง ืืืืงื ื.ื.). ืืื ืืื ืืืื ืืืืืื ืืื ืืงืื ืงืจืืื ืขื ืืชืืืช ืฉืืจืื ืขื ืืืืืืก. ืืกืืคื ืฉื ืืืจ ืืื ืงืืืื ืืื ืื ืฉื ืชื ืื ืืช ื-A side, ืืจืืฉืื ืืืืืื ืฉืื ืืืืืืก ืขื ืืกืื ืื ืฉื Something, ืขืืื ืคืจื ืง ืกืื ืืจื ืืืจ ืฉืืื ืฉืืจ ืืืืื ืืืื ืืืืชืจ ืฉื ืืืื ืืขืฉืจืื โ ืืืจืื ืืฆืขืจ, ืกืื ืืจื ื ืชื ืืช ืืงืจืืื ืขืืื ืื'ืื ืืคืื ืืื ืื'ืืจื'. ืืืืคืขื ืฉืื ืืงืจื ืืื ืืื, ืืกืคืืืืจ 1981, ืืฉืื ืฉื ืืืืคืข ืืื Something, ืืืืืงืืจืช ืืขืืชืื ื ืืชื ืื 'ืกืื ืืจื ืืฆืื ืืช ืืฉืืจ, ื ืืชื ืืืืงืื ืขื ืืื ืืืืืืก, ืืืืจ ืื 'ืืืืื ืืืฉืื ืืืื ืืืืื ืืืฉืืช ืืืจ.ืื ืื, ืืื ืืืจ.ืืงืจืื ื'. ืืืืคื ืืืจืื ื, ื'ืื ืืคืื ืืืจื ืคืขื ืฉืื ืืืขื ืฉืื 'ืืฆืืืื' ืืืืชืืื, ืืฉืคืจื ืง ืกืื ืืจื ืืงืืื ืฉืืจ ืฉื ืืืืืืก".
ืืฉืืจืื ืฉื ื'ืืจื' ื'Abbey Road' ืืืืืื ืฉืืื ืืืชื ืืืฆื ืืืคื ืฉืืืฉืชืง ืืืื ืงืจืืืจืช ืืืงืืืืช ืฉื ืืืืืืก. ืจืื ืื, ืืืืื, ืืื ืืืืฉ ืืืืืจื โ ืืืื ืืจืืืฉ ืืช ืื ืืชืงืืคื ืืืืงืืืช. ืืืืืืื ืฉืื ืืืจ ืืฉืื ื ืขืฉื ืืจืืจ ืฉืืื ืืื ืืืืืืก ืืคืืคืืืจื ืืืืชืจ ืืกืืืืื ืืืืคืขืืช ืืจืืฉืื ืื ืฉื ืืืืืืก ืืืจืฆืืช ืืืจืืช, ืขื ืืืชืจ ืืืืืช ืฉื ืืชืื ืื ืืืฉืจ ืืฉืืจ ืืืจื ืืืืงื ืืืื. ืืชืงืฉืืจืช ืืืืจืืงืืืช ืืขืจืืื ืืืื ืืช ืืฉื ืื ืืช ืฉืื ืืจืืืื ืืช.